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		<title>By: Brian Breslin</title>
		<link>http://helloform.com/blog/2009/02/beyond-rss-an-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Breslin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred,
Check out my friend Caleb&#039;s site Toluu.com its a recommendation engine for RSS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred,<br />
Check out my friend Caleb&#8217;s site Toluu.com its a recommendation engine for RSS.</p>
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		<title>By: Dinis Correia</title>
		<link>http://helloform.com/blog/2009/02/beyond-rss-an-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Dinis Correia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kind of late on the comment, but here goes: I do agree that Techmeme and Hackernews are a great alternative to RSS - but only on those particular areas. 

Most of the feeds I subscribe are, for instance, friends&#039; blogs. And these updates don&#039;t usually end up on Twitter - and most certainly not on Techmeme :)

Yes, there is a problem, but I don&#039;t think quitting on RSS all together is the solution. You might even find yourself overdosing on Twitter updates as well. For me, cutting down on the number of feeds has been working fine. Filtering is the problem; something like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.postrank.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PostRank&lt;/a&gt; might be part of the solution - haven&#039;t used it for an extended period, but it works great if you only want &quot;top&quot; content from a feed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of late on the comment, but here goes: I do agree that Techmeme and Hackernews are a great alternative to RSS &#8211; but only on those particular areas. </p>
<p>Most of the feeds I subscribe are, for instance, friends&#8217; blogs. And these updates don&#8217;t usually end up on Twitter &#8211; and most certainly not on Techmeme :)</p>
<p>Yes, there is a problem, but I don&#8217;t think quitting on RSS all together is the solution. You might even find yourself overdosing on Twitter updates as well. For me, cutting down on the number of feeds has been working fine. Filtering is the problem; something like <a href="http://www.postrank.com/" rel="nofollow">PostRank</a> might be part of the solution &#8211; haven&#8217;t used it for an extended period, but it works great if you only want &#8220;top&#8221; content from a feed.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno Bergher</title>
		<link>http://helloform.com/blog/2009/02/beyond-rss-an-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno Bergher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alltop (http://alltop.com) is probably the one thing closer to what you seem to envision, though it&#039;s certainly not the same. The point it differs the most is certainly regarding what Bruno asks above: should this system be administrated or democratic? Wouldn&#039;t it perhaps be interesting to start with templates, such as Alltop&#039;s pages and then mold them towards something closer to one&#039;s personal interests?

A different direction is something we&#039;re working on at the company I work for, but I can&#039;t share right now. I do hope to able to discuss it in some time. : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alltop (<a href="http://alltop.com" rel="nofollow">http://alltop.com</a>) is probably the one thing closer to what you seem to envision, though it&#8217;s certainly not the same. The point it differs the most is certainly regarding what Bruno asks above: should this system be administrated or democratic? Wouldn&#8217;t it perhaps be interesting to start with templates, such as Alltop&#8217;s pages and then mold them towards something closer to one&#8217;s personal interests?</p>
<p>A different direction is something we&#8217;re working on at the company I work for, but I can&#8217;t share right now. I do hope to able to discuss it in some time. : )</p>
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		<title>By: Alex MacGregor</title>
		<link>http://helloform.com/blog/2009/02/beyond-rss-an-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex MacGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the root problem has been mentioned here and is frequently commented on elsewhere; until RSS is more widely adopted, I can&#039;t foresee any further developments. With Google Reader set to dominate, I can&#039;t see that changing.

If RSS is the de facto filtering method, then its adoption by more internet users is critical. There&#039;s plenty of opportunities in this field thats for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the root problem has been mentioned here and is frequently commented on elsewhere; until RSS is more widely adopted, I can&#8217;t foresee any further developments. With Google Reader set to dominate, I can&#8217;t see that changing.</p>
<p>If RSS is the de facto filtering method, then its adoption by more internet users is critical. There&#8217;s plenty of opportunities in this field thats for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: cpinto</title>
		<link>http://helloform.com/blog/2009/02/beyond-rss-an-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>cpinto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few weeks ago there was some news about daily perfect (http://thenextweb.com/2009/01/22/skype-founders-launch-news-site-predicts-interests/), seems like they&#039;re on the right track. I too gave up on RSS but not entirely: I go through the feeds once every two days or, mostly at present, during the weekend. I quickly scan the headline and if anything catches my attention I star it for later reading. 

Anyway, I understand there&#039;s a project at SAPO&#039;s Labs that may go in the right direction, lets all keep our fingers crossed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few weeks ago there was some news about daily perfect (<a href="http://thenextweb.com/2009/01/22/skype-founders-launch-news-site-predicts-interests/" rel="nofollow">http://thenextweb.com/2009/01/22/skype-founders-launch-news-site-predicts-interests/</a>), seems like they&#8217;re on the right track. I too gave up on RSS but not entirely: I go through the feeds once every two days or, mostly at present, during the weekend. I quickly scan the headline and if anything catches my attention I star it for later reading. </p>
<p>Anyway, I understand there&#8217;s a project at SAPO&#8217;s Labs that may go in the right direction, lets all keep our fingers crossed.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno Marto</title>
		<link>http://helloform.com/blog/2009/02/beyond-rss-an-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno Marto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fred,

That recommendation system you talk is administrated or is it democratic?
Let&#039;s suppose this aggregator isn&#039;t democratic, who has the authority to say &quot;this post doesn&#039;t cut it&quot;? 
And if it is, in the long run wouldn&#039;t it be like our rss readers (bloated with blogs/articles we thought interesting at the time) because everyone thinks found a good article?

What I am trying to say (and the purpose of your post) is: the quantity of information we face daily is beyond our ability to monitor and sometimes, understand it. But is building another aggregator a solution?
And isn&#039;t this the so called Web 3.0? Semantic and smarter machines giving the information we need?

One way or another, I&#039;m also &quot;loosing&quot; a lot of time with my daily dose of information and I guess, so is everyone. (unless you unsubscribe all your feeds :) ).


Keep &#039;em comming! It is always good to read your articles.
Bruno</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fred,</p>
<p>That recommendation system you talk is administrated or is it democratic?<br />
Let&#8217;s suppose this aggregator isn&#8217;t democratic, who has the authority to say &#8220;this post doesn&#8217;t cut it&#8221;?<br />
And if it is, in the long run wouldn&#8217;t it be like our rss readers (bloated with blogs/articles we thought interesting at the time) because everyone thinks found a good article?</p>
<p>What I am trying to say (and the purpose of your post) is: the quantity of information we face daily is beyond our ability to monitor and sometimes, understand it. But is building another aggregator a solution?<br />
And isn&#8217;t this the so called Web 3.0? Semantic and smarter machines giving the information we need?</p>
<p>One way or another, I&#8217;m also &#8220;loosing&#8221; a lot of time with my daily dose of information and I guess, so is everyone. (unless you unsubscribe all your feeds :) ).</p>
<p>Keep &#8216;em comming! It is always good to read your articles.<br />
Bruno</p>
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		<title>By: Celso Martinho</title>
		<link>http://helloform.com/blog/2009/02/beyond-rss-an-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>Celso Martinho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree, and I add more:

IMHO the problem is us, the geeks. We&#039;ve built powerful RSS readers using the wrong approach: looking at the RSS feed as the feature and centering the user experience and the application&#039;s logic around it. RSS is not a feature, it&#039;s just a transport, a cool technical detail. Content, relevance and speed is what really matters, and none of the readers I know provide me this when you have +500 feeds, 90% of them mostly echoing each other or stating trivialities which I get from twitter anyways.

I don&#039;t know if filters or recommendations from collective intelligence will cut it but there&#039;s certainly an opportunity to change the paradigm and break the rules here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree, and I add more:</p>
<p>IMHO the problem is us, the geeks. We&#8217;ve built powerful RSS readers using the wrong approach: looking at the RSS feed as the feature and centering the user experience and the application&#8217;s logic around it. RSS is not a feature, it&#8217;s just a transport, a cool technical detail. Content, relevance and speed is what really matters, and none of the readers I know provide me this when you have +500 feeds, 90% of them mostly echoing each other or stating trivialities which I get from twitter anyways.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if filters or recommendations from collective intelligence will cut it but there&#8217;s certainly an opportunity to change the paradigm and break the rules here.</p>
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		<title>By: André Luís</title>
		<link>http://helloform.com/blog/2009/02/beyond-rss-an-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>André Luís</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally know what you mean. Once upon a time, there was a great rss reader called SearchFox (i know, the worst name for a reader, but I digress...). It analyzed the contents of your feeds and suggested feeds according to your consumption.

It wasn&#039;t perfect but it sure as well could have got to where you&#039;re aiming at. The sad thing, though, is that it closed down ages ago. -- http://andr3.net/blog/post/73 -- It could&#039;ve gone far.

That said... I can totally get the need for an aggregation service based on a recommendation engine... whoever picks it up, just make sure you let me feed it my APML and extract it when I&#039;m done. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally know what you mean. Once upon a time, there was a great rss reader called SearchFox (i know, the worst name for a reader, but I digress&#8230;). It analyzed the contents of your feeds and suggested feeds according to your consumption.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t perfect but it sure as well could have got to where you&#8217;re aiming at. The sad thing, though, is that it closed down ages ago. &#8212; <a href="http://andr3.net/blog/post/73" rel="nofollow">http://andr3.net/blog/post/73</a> &#8212; It could&#8217;ve gone far.</p>
<p>That said&#8230; I can totally get the need for an aggregation service based on a recommendation engine&#8230; whoever picks it up, just make sure you let me feed it my APML and extract it when I&#8217;m done. ;)</p>
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